Yes, I appreciate life more.
I'm more at peace.
I enjoy life more.
I celebrate more.
I relax more.
No more guilt.
..i`ve watched jehovah`s witness`s live and die for decades..they really seem to have a lack of appreciation,for the limited time they have on this earth.....and..why should`nt they?..jehovah`s witness`s are going to live forever!.....there`s no rush to do anything.except to get to the next meeting,assembly or get out in the field service.....celebrations of almost any kind are avoided..excelling at anything is discouraged..a death in the congregation is no big deal.that person will be resurrected.....jehovah`s witness`s don`t have a hunger for life,because they`re stuck with it!..there`s no way out,unless you stop being a jw..if you stop being a jw,you loose your family and friends!..so basically,jehovah`s witness`s are stuck with living forever!..lol!
!.............now that you realize,that your life has an expiration date..do you appreciate life more?................................outlaw
Yes, I appreciate life more.
I'm more at peace.
I enjoy life more.
I celebrate more.
I relax more.
No more guilt.
i knew many people that were in need of assistance within the congregation that never got helped because the "friends" were more focused on getting their field service time in as opposed to helping those within the "brotherhood".
were you one of those ever in need that got ignored because the brothers and sisters were more involved in "theocratic" pursuits?.
were you one of those that routinely ignored the needy because you had more important spiritual responsibilities to take care of?.
Thats when I had my first sick feeling, inkling about 1973.
Yeah, same here, 1973. That's when I KNEW for sure that it was all a big, cruel hoax. I was a little younger than you. I planned my escape and I did go to college. I hope your life is better now.
there is a young elder from southern california that is working from the inside to help doubters to leave.
he goes by olin moyle jw elder on yahoo.
answers.
Yes, I remember. I left this religion in 1973 as a teenager. But I remember these horror sessions. My sister continued to attend with my parents until approximately 1976. I think she remembers more than I do. But it made her physically sick and there is untold damage to her psyche to this day.
I completely turned my brain off toward the end. I think I just daydreamed about escaping from the torture and planning my escape which I did accomplish successfully. Although some psychological damage endures as iI'm sure all of you can tell and some of you can probably relate to.
tonight my wife and i attended a christmas play held at a local church.
it was really cute, 4-8 year olds recreating the whole christ story, when suddenly this totally empty feeling hit me like a punch to the face.
i realized how much we missed out with our own two kids by raising them as jws.
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Well, I'm going to give a viewpoint from someone who was raised as a JW from birth. I am now an adult with 3 children that I have raised mostly in the Methodist Church.
I very frequently get that empty feeling that hits me like a punch in the stomach when I let myself think about the traditions that I never experienced as a child. My only solace is that I have tried to do the best I can to make it different for my children and I have been able to build my own bank of holiday memories as an adult. I just have no childhood memories to remember.
Yes, you missed out on a lot by raising your children as JWs but I commend you for coming here and admitting it. My parents were never able to do that for me and my sister. They could never admit that they had screwed up and just plain made a mistake. The subject was never discussed even though my sister and I both asked my mother about it on separate occasions. She just wouldn't talk about it.
My parents were baptized as JWs right before they got married in their 20s. They stayed in this religionfor 25 years. I would appreciate it if anyone could give me any insight as to why 2 adults in their 20s were attracted to this religion and chose to raise their children in this anti-social, controlling cult. Both my parents are dead now and I'm still trying to understand. I think it bothers me the most around this time of year.
Living, learning and enjoying their religion. I like the way you put that. Yes, many people do. But I certainly never did as a JW. It was a nightmare. The 3 highlights that you mentioned were exactly the way I was raised. Quite frankly, I consider it mental abuse.
As far as turning us off of religion, yes, my sister wouldn't touch any kind of a religion with a ten-foot pole. She considers all religions to be just like the JWs. She doesn't know any better because she's never given another religion a chance.
Yes, my heart is broken too about the way I was raised. Yes, you raised your kids in a very twisted, abusive, mindless religion and you and your kids missed out on many things that could have bonded your family closer. I know because I was one of those kids.
Please tell me why you did this so that maybe I can have some understanding of my own deceased parents.
in the movie rational people are being replaced by a "pod" double of themselves when they fall asleep.
this "replacement' is part of a collective which feels no human emotion....you can pretend to be a zombiefied one of them..as many here have to do to get by, and they will leave you alone.
this movie reminded me so much of watchtower mind control.....don't fall asleep!!!!!
Very interesting. I've seen the 1950's version of this movie. I'm going to watch it again with the JWs in mind. No wonder this movie gave me such a creepy feeling.
resurrected for you new ones, because while i couldn't play it at the kingdom hall, i can play it here!
i call it "dubsticks.
" it's an old familiar dubbie melody.. http://new.ddsweb.net/production/farkel/dubsticks.wma.
You're killing me! God, it's been a long time since I heard that one but it came roaring back into my memory. I, too, didn't know whether to laugh or cry but I chose to laugh! Thanks for the "new rendition"!
i knew many people that were in need of assistance within the congregation that never got helped because the "friends" were more focused on getting their field service time in as opposed to helping those within the "brotherhood".
were you one of those ever in need that got ignored because the brothers and sisters were more involved in "theocratic" pursuits?.
were you one of those that routinely ignored the needy because you had more important spiritual responsibilities to take care of?.
This is a great thread and very accurate. Even as as child and a young adolescent I noticed that other religions and "worldly" people were out helping the poor and unfortunate while the JWs did nothing, even encouraged not to. I just didn't get it and I still don't.
When my father died he had not been attending meetings for maybe 2 years although he had been a very active JW for 25 years before that. We did not hear from one JW expressing any condolences or sympathy. JWs are programmed to be heartless and cruel and uncompassionate. The only thing that matters is following the "rules". It is a sick, abusive religion that tears up families and people in many, many insidious ways. I know that it has in my immediate family. The effects from it are still reverberating within my family 30-35 years after we stopped attending meetings. That mental cruelty has the same kind of effects as being physically and mentally abused.
okay... i haven't been to one of those danged jw meetings in a coons' age... well over 25 years now.
that includes going door-knocking.
so... today, my boss and i drive to houston, and meet one of the sales-people for our company.
Jim:
I completely and totally understand. That's what's so great about this board. Virtually everybody can relate to what you're saying. I've never had anyone I could talk to that understands the trauma until I found this board.
Glad you posted, Jim.
as 2004 winds down and my 4th year of association at this board winds down as well, my posting stats accurately reflect a transitition that been going on for me with respect to the jw religion, a process that is quite natural and healthy.
i'm sure that many members have had a similar experience.
here's a rundown of four years here for me: .
Rocketman:
This is a great thread. I've enjoyed reading it.
That photo is what would have happend to me if I had stayed a JW any longer than I did.